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How Forty8Fifty Labs builds the perfect SAFe issue structure with Hierarchy for Jira

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The challenge: Robert Nadon, Lead Atlassian Architect at Forty8Fifty Labs, sees companies face a persistent challenge when implementing the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) in Jira: their complex workflows push the limits of Jira's default issue hierarchy, leading to time-consuming and costly SAFe implementations.
The solution: After seeing clients struggle with unintuitive workarounds, Robert found a solution in our app for Jira Cloud: Hierarchy for Jira. Hierarchy for Jira bridges the gap between Jira's hierarchy and SAFe by allowing you to add new levels between stories and epics, creating a custom issue hierarchy.
The outcome: The results are promising, with Robert estimating workflow improvements of 20% on the project management level, and 10% on the developer side.

About Robert Nadon and Forty8Fifty Labs

Robert Nadon is a Lead Atlassian Architect at Forty8Fifty Labs, bringing over a decade of experience in the Atlassian ecosystem to his role. Robert is both ITIL and SAFe Certified, as well as being an Atlassian Certified Expert.
Forty8Fifty Labs is a Platinum Professional Services Partner for Atlassian, providing professional services for both agile and JSM customers at different stages of their Atlassian journey.

The mismatch: when your framework doesn't fit your tools

Jira is a powerful platform. The default issue hierarchy works for many teams, but there are limitations.
'The [default] hierarchy in Jira is based on three levels', Robert explains. 'Those three levels are your sub-issue type, your standard issue type, and your epic.'
For many teams, this structure works perfectly. But for those implementing SAFe hierarchies? That's where things get complicated.
'For those in the know, scaled agile has a different hierarchy', Robert points out.
'You have your portfolio level and your solution level, and then below that, you'll have epic, capability, feature, and then below that, you have a story... and that does not match up [with Jira's out-of-the-box hierarchy].'
The mismatch between an ideal SAFe hierarchy and Jira's default issue hierarchy means teams struggle to implement true SAFe processes. Some teams resort to workarounds, which can have short-term benefits, but in the long run, create more problems than they solve.
'One of the things I've actually seen, which is a huge no-no, is to go into epic and rename epic', Robert warns. 'Every other week [Atlassian is] coming up with improvements and changes. If you go change some of the default areas of Jira, that could conflict with future changes and cause problems.'
Other teams split their work between multiple tools, creating a disjointed experience.
'Some of the other workarounds I've seen is to focus the higher project levels in Jira Align and the lower levels in Jira. So, you have your developers working in Jira, and your higher-level portfolio engineers and project managers working in Jira Align. But, that also can bring problems—it's better to have everybody working in the same tool.'
Robert wanted a better, more intuitive way to implement SAFe solutions for Forty8Fifty Labs' clients.

What is the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe)?

The Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe) is an enterprise-level methodology that helps large organisations implement agile practices across multiple teams. It combines elements from Scrum, Kanban, and Lean approaches with a multi-tiered structure that includes team, program, large solution, and portfolio levels.SAFe is a powerful way to scale agile in complex environments, but requires careful implementation, including customised hierarchy levels between Epics and Stories.

Finding the missing piece

At an Atlassian Community Event (ACE) in Austin, Texas, Robert met the Upscale team and discovered a potential solution to his challenges around SAFe implementation: Hierarchy for Jira.
Hierarchy for Jira, our app for Jira Cloud, allows teams to create a custom Jira issue hierarchy to meet the needs of their unique projects.
'I went in there and tried it, and was able to, without really much help, configure a solution and actually get a solution working', Robert recalls. 'It was very easy. It was very user-friendly, easy to build out, and really intuitive.'
Hierarchy for Jira allowed Robert to do exactly what his clients following SAFe need: add new levels between stories and epics, allowing them to implement true SAFe-ready issue hierarchies.
'What it [Hierarchy for Jira] does is allow you to go into the product [Jira] and actually add levels in between both the story and the epic, which really solves the problem. It doesn't make you have to wonder which epic you're talking about.'
Robert Nadon on a dark blue background
Hierarchy for Jira allows you to go into the product [Jira] and actually add levels in between both the story and the epic, which really solves the problem.
Robert Nadon
Lead Atlassian Architect, Forty8Fifty Labs

Going beyond Jira's standard hierarchy levels

Robert found that with the proper SAFe hierarchy levels in place, thanks to Hierarchy for Jira, the entire project workflow will be improved.
'As far as the workflow goes... each issue can have a unique workflow. And with the additional correct levelling of issues within the hierarchy, the workflows just seem to go smoother because they're more logical.'
The way Hierarchy for Jira allows you to visualise your issue hierarchy also impressed him. 'I also like the display of it [the custom issue hierarchy] and the way you can actually display the hierarchy tree out.'
Importantly, in a world where enterprise-focused software often requires constant support, Robert found that everything he needed to do was possible without having to go through Upscale's support team.
'I actually haven't needed to use their support team. And I think what that is is a true complement of the power of the product. You use support teams when you have trouble with the products. And I actually have not had to contact them!'

The results? Improved workflows and time savings!

When asked about the potential time-savings and efficiency benefits of using Hierarchy for Jira, Robert is optimistic.
'Those things are hard to quantify because every company is going to be different', adding that 'my guess would be a good 20% on the project management level and 10% on the developer level.'
These time savings come from having a more logical structure that matches the way teams actually work in scaled agile environments.
'I believe the workflows are improved. And they're improved on both usability, as well as understandability.'

See how Hierarchy for Jira could benefit your organisation

Interested in trying Hierarchy for Jira? Use our calculator to forecast the potential savings your team could see, based on Robert's estimates.
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Robert Nadon on a dark blue background
Those things are hard to quantify because every company is going to be different—but my guess would be a good 20% on the project management level and a good 10% on the developer level.
Robert Nadon
Lead Atlassian Architect, Forty8Fifty Labs

Who benefits most from an app like Hierarchy for Jira?

When we asked who Robert would recommend Hierarchy for Jira to, he said that it's particularly valuable for larger organisations implementing SAFe:
'Obviously, your scaled agile companies. That's your tier 100 companies, your Fortune 100 companies that want to do scaled agile and don't want to purchase Jira Align. Or, even if they do [use Jira Align], it's nice to have a matching hierarchy!'
But he adds that it's not just large enterprise companies that will benefit, highlighting that Hierarchy for Jira is useful for 'anybody who wants more control over their issue hierarchy.'
Robert's advice for companies considering Hierarchy for Jira? 'Try it!'

Ready to build your custom issue hierarchy?

For teams looking to extend Jira's native hierarchy with flexible hierarchy levels that support SAFe, but retain all of the power that Jira provides, Hierarchy for Jira is for you.
Try it now with a completely free 30-day trial, or schedule a call with our team to learn how it can work for your unique project management needs.
hierarchy for jira hero screenshot showing a custom issue hierarchy